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8 Frame Hives

For beeks who are using or considering using the smaller 8 frame Langstroth style hives.

Location: Central NM/ABQ
Members: 12
Latest Activity: Sep 24

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I wasn't going to start a hive this year because of back issues, but my experienced beekeeper son-in-law has encouraged me since he can't keep bees in his yard at this time. He has suggested we use…Continue

Started by Sarah Dolk. Last reply by Chris Specter Apr 23, 2013.

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Comment by Brett Rimer on September 24, 2014 at 4:58pm
All of my 8 frame medium foundationless hives made it through last winter. The smallest was a single box with a Carniolan queen and they built up to four boxes of brood nest now. I like Michael Bush's site and follow basically his model, top entrances and solid bottom boards I build myself with no entrance.
Comment by Rhett Renoud on September 24, 2014 at 4:01pm

I've been getting my 8 frame screened bottom boards and cedar hive bodies from BeeThinking.  They sell 8 frame bottom boards, brood boxes, mediums, and supers and top bars.  They also subscribe to the foundationless philosophy.     

Comment by Chris Specter on September 24, 2014 at 3:20pm

Michael Bush (Bush Bees) is one of my favorite websites.  He is converting (converted) his hives to medium 8 frame and is going foundationless.  Almost like Warre hives all things considered.  The Russian beekeepers use an empty box on top stuffed with a pillow or quilt to keep their bees warm in the winter but many winter over with screened bottoms.  Like the pillow of Warres.  Foundation less means frames without foundations so all equipment is standardized and the bees have a model to follow in building comb, minimizing wild comb.

Comment by Rhett Renoud on September 24, 2014 at 10:33am

I'm using 8 frame Langstroth hives, some with foundation and some foundationless.  My hives are kept at 7,000 feet.  It is my belief that the bees can more easily winter in a 8 frame Langstroth versus a 10 frame.  In specific, the winter cluster is more likely to move up before they move out in a 10 frame, which leaves the outer frames full of untouched honey stores.  I still have 10 frame Langstroth hives, but I'm replacing the outer boards with dummy boards (follower boards).  I have also discovered that some variety of bees eat a fraction of the food that is needed by other bees.  Now, if someone made a Langstroth box out of 1" inch cedar, like the Warre, then that would be an ideal setup.               

Comment by Jefferson on September 24, 2014 at 8:14am

what is the survival rate with 8 frames, are they spaced out with dividers. Wondering about swarming with the 8 frame boxes,what are the advantages other than less weight to lift. Like Taylor I plan to convert all my hives next spring, reduce all my 10 frame's to 9- or 8, and make my splits that way, how did converting work out, any hints or advice unforeseen circumstances of any kind?

Comment by Randy Elliott on April 10, 2013 at 1:03pm

I'm using all 8 frame mediums in my hives. Also I'm going foundationless.

Comment by Taylor Horst on February 26, 2013 at 3:44pm

Hello.  I am converting over to 8 frame equipment over the next couple of years, unless I can get it all done this year (I run about 45 hives total).  I have lots of 8 frame equipment should anyone need to get ahold of something fast.  Deeps, mediums, frames, foundation, bottoms, lids.

Comment by Elizabeth Ann Bristol on January 26, 2013 at 8:16pm

This is the type of hive I have already purchased, so I would love to join and learn all I can. 

Comment by Ed Costanza on January 28, 2011 at 5:29pm
Please add me to your group.  I have some thoughts on 8 frame hives.
Comment by Sarah Dolk on April 13, 2010 at 9:33am
I started this group so we could all hook up to share hive parts. Additionally, I want tell about this lighter alternative for those of you out there who want to start a Langstroth hive but are worried about the weight of the hive bodies and supers. Questions? Post 'em here!
 

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